Bill Walton welcomes J. Michael Waller, Senior Analyst at the Center for Security Policy, back to The Bill Walton Show for a discussion of Waller’s new book, Big Intel: How the CIA & FBI Went from Cold War Heroes to Deep State Villains, which explores how the CIA and FBI started as opponents of Russian Marxism and German Fascism but have now adopted these philosophies for themselves.
J. Edgar Hoover warned of the dangers of the Marxist and Fascist political ideologies taking over Russia and Germany to Americans in the 1920s, but by Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s presidency, Marxism was popular in learned circles of Americans. It informed Roosevelt’s cabinet, filled with intellectuals, who executed a vast expansion of federal power, including the War Time Intelligence Agency and his practice in spying not only on his political opponents but friends. Intelligence agencies fell defunct after the war until the founding of the CIA, but it wasn’t until September 11, 2001, that the nature of the country’s intelligence agencies took a turn for the worse.
“It became ideological really in the, it started to, after 9/11. So, you had President George W. Bush tell the brand new FBI Director Robert Mueller, who had only been on the job for a week, he said, ‘Make sure the FBI never permits terrorist to attack our citizens again.’ That’s a pretty big order for the FBI coming from the president,” Waller explained the shift in the FBI’s mission.
He continued, “This was a bipartisan consensus going back decades: Don’t have a giant central surveillance service for all of our intelligence capabilities under one roof because than can, that will threaten our constitutional government.”
9/11 changed that when Mueller centralized the FBI and created the Department of Homeland Security and Congress passed the Patriot Act. Once these actions established a bloated domestic intelligence system, the hiring of analysts indoctrinated by radical, Marxist professors at top tier universities and the imposition of DEI standards by the Obama administration furthered the radicalization and corruption of the intelligence system to what we see today.
Waller’s solution is to break up these intelligence agencies the way anti-trust laws break up giant corporations, “Break them up into logical components that aren’t going to hurt anybody anymore, and then make sure that they’re viable.” The most basic action average Americans can take is to research who they elect for county sheriff who have the authority the determine the reach of the FBI in each county.
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